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  Hebrews 4:9-10
Posted by: Jeremy - 04-10-2018, 12:08 PM - Forum: Weekly Scripture - Replies (5)

Hebrews 4:9-10 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.
10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Chris has mentioned this earlier under the Hebrews 4:9,10 post.

Just thought I'd add a little more to it. To rest is to find peace. Finding rest is the heavenly blessedness in which God dwells, and of which he has promised to make persevering believers in Christ partakers after the toils and trials of life on earth are ended. (Strong's)

The initial toils and trials of life are the battles true Christians have against sin.

To rest in this context is to finally be in a place where our conscience no longer convicts us of sin, and where we are done with our sin where we can finally find rest or have peace of mind that we have denied ourselves the right to follow our sin and accept the spirit of God. The world has been convicted of sin. We have been convicted of sin.

Paul said "I have fought the fine fight." Against what? Jesus said, "take courage I have conquered the world. Conquered what?

As Paul was, we too are in a fight against our own sin, and when we finally win over sin by not giving in to our desires, we win the fight and resist Satan so he will flee from us and this is where we can rest.

To conquer the world as Jesus did is to resist all fleshly temptations which drive us to sin. Having faith that through Jesus words of encouragement and the power of Gods spirit is what will aid us in driving our sins away. When our conscience no longer convicts us of our sin and we can come to the place where we know we are obedient to the word of God, we have peace of mind. We have entered God's rest.

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  2 Thessalonians 2
Posted by: Chris - 12-11-2017, 02:26 PM - Forum: Your Subject - No Replies

2 Thessalonians 2  Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed,
the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the
temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already
at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed,
whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the
lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception
among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason
God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did
not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The context of 2 Thessalonians 2 is ongoing instruction following 2 Thessalonians 1 after Paul praised the Thessalonians for their
faith and endurance. Paul's continued instruction from chapter 1 is directed toward their relationship with God as Paul said
"that our God may count you worthy of this “Calling” The context of the first verses of 2 Thessalonians 2 quickly shifts into
reminding the Thessalonians of a specific way in which Jesus would return and specific context surrounding this event, as Paul writes in
verse 5  "Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?" I would imaging Paul would have spoken in depth
of these events, as one would when speaking/teaching face to face as appose to writing a letter.
For us looking back clearly God’s plan was for these letters to be saved to our benefit, as the relevance of detail and context in these writings
was unknown, like many of the scriptures until the appropriate time, whereby comparing scripture to events, detail and context become apparent,
or in other words it has taken about 2000 years to see evidence of this Mystery taking shape.
Paul seems to be correcting what the Thessalonians were thinking, or talking/debating about, where in that time followers would have been
expecting Jesus return at any time, (As we do) not knowing that God's timeframe for the Gentiles to come in was going to be over along
period of time. It would then make sense that there could have been plenty of speculation and discussion as to how Jesus would return?
Paul issues a warning, that if anyone comes who seems to have authority, which could be way of Spirit, Word, or Letter; meaning
if someone comes claiming to have a revelation, vision or can prove it in some way by scripture (Letter from an Apostle) that the
day of the Lord has come before many fall away, this is a deception, do not believe it, don’t change your mind if you hear it.
Paul knew in looking for the coming of Jesus claim's that Jesus has returned in some other way, other than by the way in which
Jesus left would be presented.
Paul describes what will happen before Jesus return in Verse 3       
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
This scripture is of significance to the context of 2 Thessalonians 2 and is in part key to understanding context of relating prophecy.
To understand the context and purpose of what Paul was prophesying can be best understood by reading
Verse 12 “that they all may be condemned [i]who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
and Verse 11And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie”
The end purpose and completion of this Mystery of Lawlessness is for sorting, or separating, as this plan of Mystery has been incubating
and growing for more than 2000 years, waiting for it's time when this egg matures and hatches.  "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work"
At this point it’s important to define some questions which arise from reading these scriptures, like, who needs to be separated? And by being
separated become condemned?  “and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth,
that they might be saved.” Verse 10 shows that those who become condemned (Judged) in this process have been deceived at the hatching of this Mystery.
So are we talking about people who know God? e.g. Christians? Or people who don’t want to know about God and Jesus?
The answer is revealed in this excerpt from 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8
“the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those
who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
From these scriptures we can see that when Jesus comes, or is revealed from heaven, there will be vengeance on those who do not know God and
those who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus, We also read in Verse 3 that the "falling away" is before the return of Jesus; therefore
confirming this separating event has already taken place for Jesus to know on whom to execute vengeance, which is those of the world who
reject the “Calling” to Jesus, and Christians who refuse to obey the commands of Jesus through his Gospel.  
How could Christians be included in this vengeance? Aren’t all Christians forgiven for their sins?

This is the significance of Verse 3
“3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first”
The context of this "falling away" could not be those of the world who do not know God or Jesus, as what would they be falling away from?
This “falling away” is the separation of “Called” Christians, or in other words, the separation of  those who know God and obey the Gospel/commands
of Jesus and those who will believe the “Lie” because they do not know God's Word or have God's Word in their heart, therefore they can not
see the difference between the truth of God's Word and the Lie.
The next question to consider, what is the context of Lawlessness? Is this someone who is against the laws of the land by which we all live?
The context of Lawlessness in question is identified as one who goes outside the law of God's Word. As we know the first example of Lawlessness
is the account of Adam and Eve, the disobeying of God’s Word, (Command) which was also sin.
1 John 3:4  Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
Here’s a good example which fits the context of Lawlessness we are discussing.  Mathew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’
shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have
we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them,
‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
This is Jesus speaking to/about Christians. We can see even in this context that these professed followers of Jesus were doing many signs and
wonders in Jesus name, but in the end they were disqualified? why? Surly if they were doing these works
in Jesus name God would forgive them for wrongdoing?
Something to note about this scripture is they were able to prophesy, cast out demons and did many wonders/miracles in Jesus name but clearly
Jesus was not with them? What this shows is just because someone can prophesy, cast out demons and do wonders in Jesus name does not mean
they are approved by God based on possessing the ability to do these works, or that these are a sign of bearing true fruits from the spirit.
Basically what this scripture from Matthew shows is their intentions by which they were prophesying, casting out demons or doing any other
miracle was not of God, even though from their own perspective they thought because of the success of their works the works were of God,
therefore Jesus would know them. So what disqualified them? It was ongoing Lawlessness; they willingly exclude God’s Word in their works, how?
If Jesus did not know them because of lawlessness means Jesus did not know them because their works were outside the Law, or in other words
their works whether all or in part were sinning against God Word, where if their intention is of God they would have found their error from
God's Word and corrected their lawlessness. What is also note worthy is where Jesus said  "Many will say to Me" sadly showing that many have
not taken up God's Word for truth.  If we refer back to what Paul was saying to the Thessalonians; Paul said that he hoped they would be counted
worthy of their “Calling” also showing there is a position where we can be counted unworthy of our "Calling"  
Matthew 24:23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will
rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 “Therefore if they say to you,
‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and
 flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

We can see that Mathew 24:23-27  fits into the same context of 2 Thessalonians 2
with the ongoing false direction, where both Jesus and Paul were warning to be extremely careful that we are not lured into a false way of following
Jesus, or another Jesus, where through deception we end up apposing God’s Word. Matthew 7:21 and Matthew 24:23 correlate. Those doing signs and
wonders in Jesus name of Matthew 7:21 who Jesus does not know are the same as those in Matthew 24 where through their sings and wonders cause
people to believe God/the Spirit is with them. So why is this a problem? If someone does signs and wonders/works in Jesus name and fails to do them
within the Law? (God's Word) those who follow, follow Lawlessness, or in other words
they follow sin.
This is the same context of Lawlessness in 2 Thessalonians 2, which brings us to the man of Sin, the Lawless one, the Son of perdition. The first reference
to this person is found in Daniel at the end of the seventy sevens prophecy (Daniel 9:26) he is the prince who is to come. (Not Jesus, Satan’s prince)
His identity and timing of his coming is found within Revelation 17.
This Man of Lawlessness is a condemned man, who has one purpose.
John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the
son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.
Scripture was fulfilled by Judas, being the son of perdition in this case; this is also the case with the man of sin found in 2 Thessalonians 2 who is also
a son of perdition. Likewise this man's purpose is to fulfil scripture, to be the son of sin, Satan’s prince.
He is a second Judas, a betrayer, except in this case he is a betrayer of God's Word.
He has the "Power" over the greater number to uphold God's Word or to make God's Word worthless.  His purpose is to deceive all who do not love
the truth of God, he causes the “Great Falling Away” by this "Power" and in causing the Falling Away reveals himself to be the man of sin, the lawlessness one.
“9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders”
When reading this scripture of 2 Thessalonians 2 we can get the impression that it will be easy to identify the coming and deception of the lawless one
by these works of "power", signs, and lying wonders in the same way Satan operates, as we can visualise that he may perform obvious miracles and
wonders to deceive? but is this how Satan goes about deception?
If we consider Satan’s ability in “cunning” his cunning is unprecedented, as the scriptures verify, Satan is the father of the lie. If we reflect on the lie
Satan presented to Eve, Satan presented Truth and Lie’s together, which means the one to whom the lie is presented is faced with verification of
truth that reinforces the validity of the lie part, and depending on what we have as knowledge we will see or not see the lie, and depending on our
desires/heart we will accept the lie knowing that it is a lie, or reject it because it is a lie.
We also have to keep in mind how long this Mystery of Lawlessness has been incubating and what it would mean if Satan used supernatural signs
and wonders in the world scene? he only gets one shot at this, an egg only hatches once or not at all. The tricky thing is Satan has to find a way to
deceive Christians without confirming to the world that God exists before Jesus return. As we know Satan has already convinced the world that
God is but a story and that we came to exist  by evolution; therefore God does not exist to these people. Satan wouldn't want these people to then
start considering a relationship with God.
Paul describes the man of sin's objective in Verse 4  "who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits
as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
Based on Verse 4 his objective is to be God to all e.g. exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped. This is the "Deception", the "Lie"
that will be believed because of the lying wonders he does to show that he is God by bringing all who worship a God or that is called God together.
This is what "exalts himself" means, it is the going forth to convince all who worship God or any other God to join with him.
Because of the context of verse 11 and 12 the main focus of unity is toward Christian denominations, especially since lawlessness is to do with
God's Word, where he causes those who should know God's Word to believe in him and his word instead of God's Word.
This is the "working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders"
Another aspect to the birth of this deception to consider is at the same time God will deliver a strong delusion so that all who have pleasure
in unrighteousness (sin) will believe the lie that is rolled out. Therefore the lie will not be easily identified, unless one can see it through God's Word.  
The context of righteousness in this case is those who seek God's Word and hold true
to the Word. Therefore those who have pleasure in unrighteousness are those who give up/reject or are deceived away from the truth of
God's Word and accept a version acceptable by other standards. 
What other clues do these scriptures present as to verify the concept that the man of sin will be God to all, or everything that is worshiped ?
“7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way”
So who is restraining? And how will he who has the power to restrain be taken out of the way? if it's God who restrains, who can take God out of the way.......?
Let's see who and how this restraining is taking place.
John 8:12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life
Jesus is the Light of the World; it is this light that has always and is now restraining/holding back the Darkness, (Sin, Lawlessness)
John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.”
How then can Jesus be taken out of the way?
The only thing standing in the way of Lawlessness (Man of sin) is God's Word. How then can God's Word be taken away?  
This is where "Intention" of how following God's Word is paramount. If the "Called" are primed into following Doctrine that
morphs into acceptance of World standards and ways, the "Called" have then "Fallen Away" to Lawlessness and probably
won't even realize they don't follow Jesus anymore because they have been deceived into what sounds like God's Love,
which is not God's Word, where from the World's perspective is to accept everything! as we are who we are and we are what we are,
no change no struggle no repentance, God loves us as we are. Doe's God's Word support this? are we forgiven for on going wilful sin?
are we forgiven for choosing Satan over God? are we forgiven for Lawlessness?
If we refer to verse 4 where the scripture says "who opposes" The man of sin opposes God's Word through his position by nullifying
God's Word; compromising God's commandments so that those who believe these lie's choose sin and therefore become condemned,
they like the idea that repentance is not necessary or that we will not be judged for what we do, Grace covers it all!   
So how does the whole World fit into all this?
1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.
Paul is talking about the unexpected day Jesus returns, If we consider what happens when a thief comes in the night, the realization when we wake is
not only a shocking surprise but a realization something is missing, which in this context for those who wake is the realization that they have no
relationship with God, or the realization they have been deceived.   

We can also see the World agenda “Peace and safety!” What currently stands in the way of Peace and safety? Predominantly it would have
to be difference of religious beliefs and belief systems.  
So what stands in the way of religious and some social differences?  
Matthew 10:34  “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
The only way the World will achieve "Peace and safety" will be to convince those who believe in God or a God to compromise and accept change.
What would be easer? unite/compromise or remove?  If we consider what Jesus is saying in  Matthew 10:34, Jesus is saying "the sword stands
in the way of Peace" or in other words "God's Word stands in the way of achieving World Peace"
God's Word stands in the way of the Lawless one, World Peace is the result of removing God's Word. (nullifying God's Word)
Satan's deception of manipulating the world, incrementally changing mankind's thinking, side by side with the advancement of technology has
laid the ultimate trap, not only for non believers but for Christians to compromise God's Word so we can all live in “Peace and safety!”
forgetting that we are not of this world and that we are a testimony to the world by holding true to God's Word.       
John 15:18 “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own.
Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

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  2017 Roman rulership?
Posted by: Jeremy - 01-03-2017, 03:58 PM - Forum: Your Subject - Replies (5)

If anyone gets a chance I recommend that they watch AD Kingdom and Empire on Netflix. It's a series based on Jesus death and what happened after to his apostles. It's basically the book of Acts re enacted. When you watch it gives such a clear picture of those who opposed the truth and those who instigated the death and persecution of all those who followed Christ and listened to his message.

The Jews who wanted to rid Jesus and all who followed him rode the back of the mighty Roman empire who agreed to kill off all who bore testimony to the truth. The Jews knew that if they didn't destroy Jesus and his message, and prevent him from being raised up on the third day then they would eventually lose control, their riches and the powerful position they held as a Jewish Nation.

We see here a powerful Roman Empire with the (the Jews) who for a time relied on its strength until Rome turned on them and destroyed their city in Jerusalem in 70 ad.

When we read through Revelation 17 and compare the harlot with the Jews and the beast she rides with the Roman empire, a similar picture starts to emerge.

Prophecy tells us that history will repeat itself again in very much the same way, but these things will not occur until all Christian followers of Christ are persecuted by the beast and the harlot that rides it before the beast turns on the harlot and destroys her, which is prophesied in Revelation 18.

"The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction."- Revelation 17:8

Can we see a Roman beast rising once again today?

Let's take a look at Donald Trump. In October 6 2016 he wrote to Catholic leaders:

"I have a message for Catholics: I will be there for you. I will stand with you. I will fight for you,” “I am, and will remain, pro-life. I will defend your religious liberties and the right to fully and freely practice your religion, as individuals, business owners and academic institutions.”

He stated that Catholics are “a rich part of our nation's history” and that “the United States was, and is, strengthened through Catholic men, women, priests and religious Sisters.”


This 52 second video is Donald Trump's message to Catholics:


Now let's take a look a Donald Trump's vice president elect Mike Pence. He says Quote:

 "'I'm a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican in that order," he says.  Pence says he joined running mate Donald Trump in the presidential race because "we stand at a turning point" when people of faith, lovers of liberty, and protectors of life must "step forward and heed the call to action."

What he forgets to mention is that he is a Catholic. Watch what he has to say here:


Now here let's see what Mike Pence along with Donald Trump have to say about Israel.


When we watch these videos do we see a picture emerging. A Roman/Christian beast emerging with the harlot of Revelation 18 still riding the back of the beast.

Many Christians will be fooled by this as it will appear that this is Gods will that the world will turn back to "christian" worship. This will be a form of Christianity but prove false because it's source of power does not come from God's holy spirit but from the spirit of lawlessness of which originates with the dragon Satan.

Those who stay awake to this deception will not be fooled and will remain close to Jesus and as a result be persecuted and killed for a short period of time before Jesus returns and exposes their lawlessness and all of Satan's deceptions and set matters right with everything that is in opposition to the truth.

We need to remember that if the beast is Roman, Rome has and will always, be an enemy of Christianity as it belongs to the dragon Satan. It has been mentioned before that when we go back through the history of Rome we see how Constantine changed the powerful Roman Empire into something more Christian because that was the only way to stamp out true Christianity; by walking amongst them and slowly manipulating their teachings, incorporating additional pagan practices and preaching that these are acceptable before God.

Although this has been ramping up over the last 2000 within the protestant churches, the mother church (Roman Catholicism) over the last few years has started to make the move in rounding up its protestant "chicks."

This is where we now see the Roman church making a comeback and receiving its power and authority to rule once again.
As Revelation 13 says the dragon (Satan) gives the beast its authority and power and people worship him because they worship his beast. Satan works with many lying signs and wonders and when you hear Trump and Pence speak, they say and support a lot of what it means to be Christian.

But are these lying signs and wonders so as to mislead us as Satan wants?

Remember Jesus and Paul both spoke of a falling away from the truth that would happen in the end times and we are right on the precipice of this happening.

As a side-note, for anyone who lives in New Zealand, doesn't it seem like a coincidence that John Key NZ's former Prime minister recently stepped down and has been replaced by Bill English, a devout Catholic?

There seems to be many changes occurring around the world of religion and politics that it is hard to keep up as everything is happening at an alarming rate. But what we do see right before us is enough to know that things are really starting to take shape in a prophetic way.

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  20/12/16 James 5:7-8
Posted by: Chris - 12-20-2016, 07:48 AM - Forum: Weekly Scripture - Replies (3)

James 5:7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand.

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  12/12/16 1 Corinthians 9:24-15
Posted by: Chris - 12-12-2016, 03:42 PM - Forum: Weekly Scripture - Replies (4)

1 Corinthians 9:24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it.
25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown.

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  Christians must resist pride
Posted by: Jeremy - 12-11-2016, 12:02 AM - Forum: Your Subject - Replies (2)

"God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble"-
James 4:6
It is quite evident here that God resists giving grace to the proud.
Here is one way we can identify pride.
"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny." Matthew 5:25-26

This parable is speaking of a difference we may have with anyone, whether it be a believer or non-believer. If we are seeking to defend ourselves before someone we have allowed them to become our accuser and because they have become our accuser we come under their judgment.

The moment we defend ourselves before another we yield to them as our judge. We forfeit our position in Christ, allowing our accuser to rise above us when we answer their criticism. His or her authority is elevated above us because of our self defense.

Attempting to prove our innocence, we succumb to the mercy of our accuser.
According to the parable we will be made to pay whatever our accuser demands as compensation. We are left helpless and at their mercy. The greater the offense he or she bears toward us the less mercy they will extend to us. They will extract every last penny of our debt.

Pride says to us "defend yourselves!", but Jesus says to us, "Agree with your adversary."
We are counseled throughout God's word to lay down pride and make God the judge of the situation.
As believers we all have the battle to overcome the enemy pride and as we gain more knowledge and understanding of God and his ways we have to be even more careful not to let pride come to our defense.

The ultimate example of this was in Jesus when he was accused of a complete lie, yet he did not correct his accusers or seek to defend himself.
Despite all the wisdom, knowledge and understanding Jesus had of his father, his behavior caused one governor to marvel at his composure. Jesus refused to defend himself so that he could remain under his Fathers judgment and not his accusers judgment. -Matthew 27:12-14

When we refuse to defend ourselves we overcome pride and there is a sense of freedom knowing that we have committed ourselves to God's way and His righteous judgment, so that anyone who accuses us falsely will be handed over to God to judge.

On the other hand, when we defend ourselves whether we are involved in an argument or debating an issue we have to be honest and ask ourselves, do we feel God's grace?
We may also go over conversations in our heads of how we should counteract or defend a certain occurrence that has arisen, but how does that make us truly feel? I can honestly say from experience that it usually leaves us feeling exhausted and unsettled.

Not the type of fruitage we would feel if we had God's grace and left it for him to judge. It's a sad fact that we waste a lot of our time defending ourselves and all it leads to is divisions and contention.

It makes sense then if we put aside pride and follow the counsel of God's word to be humble, despite what situations the devil puts before us we have God's assurance that his grace and favor will be upon us and He will grant us peace of mind knowing we have done what He wills us to do. This is where we also put aside the doing of our will and allow the operation of God's will to work through us.

(Some excerpts above are taken from "The Devil's Door" by John Bevere -Chapter 10)

As an extension to the above scripture mentioned in Matthew 5, think about how we can apply this scripture knowing that our chief accuser is the Devil and that he accuses us day and night before God.
A few things to keep in mind as we do:

Satan is a:

Satan's target - your mind;

Satan's weapons - lies;
Satan's purpose - to make you ignorant of God's will;
your defense - the inspired Word of God.

Satan's target - your body;

Satan's weapon - suffering;
Satan's purpose - to make you impatient with God's will;
your defense - the imparted grace.

Satan's target - your will;

Satan's weapon - pride;
Satan's purpose - to make you independent of God's will;
your defense - the indwelling Spirit of God.


Satan's target - your heart and conscience;

Satan's weapon - accusation;
Satan's purpose - to bring an indictment by God's will;
your defense - the interceding Son and our savior Jesus.

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  28/11/16 James 4:1-6
Posted by: Chris - 11-28-2016, 10:10 AM - Forum: Weekly Scripture - Replies (3)

James 4:1-6 Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members?
2 You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask.
3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. 4 Adulterers and adulteresses!
Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes
himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”?
6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:
“God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble.”

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  22/11/16 Hebrews 6:4-6
Posted by: Chris - 11-22-2016, 03:50 PM - Forum: Weekly Scripture - Replies (1)

Hebrews 6:4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify
again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

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  What is a lukewarm Christian?
Posted by: Jeremy - 11-18-2016, 02:29 PM - Forum: Questions for Discussion - Replies (1)

The Lukewarm Church

“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,
‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked— I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent."-Rev 3:14-19

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